So I heard this game was gonna have blood..

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Zalak123
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Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:48 am

Mabye when you add blood.. You could have a blood on/off option? For the cowards and hemiaphobes out there?

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:02 am

Bump

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:28 am

Since you felt that this required a bump, I will state my opinion, I hadn't intended to initially.

What kind of a pansy doesn't want blood in a game with Samurai....
I think this is a ridiculous idea.
Why don't you make a mod to replace the blood with a patch of daisies?

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:09 pm

if you dont like blood, you could play as a pacifist trader or a doctor, and use only blunt weapons, there will be lots of options for this. A man shouldn't go about casually killing others with swords and expect it to be pleasant and easy.

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:34 pm

Chris said: A man shouldn't go about casually killing others with swords and expect it to be pleasant and easy.


Wait..... we shouldn't? :o :lol:
SynysterOne Said: Why don't you make a mod to replace the blood with a patch of daisies?
Oh, no! my character is bleeding out so bad, its gone from daisies to tulips! :lol:


Well, I guess if you don't like blood, don't cause people to bleed (there are many options, like Chris said). Maybe you can use ranged weapons (when available), they probably would not be as bad as a sword. Later, the stronger people will be able to cut off limbs ( blood effects most likely) so don't specialize in anything that can do that (when possible,but probably not now). *Ah, but what about the unarmed skill, its not like you could impale somebody with merely your hands (or rip their arms off). ;)

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:44 pm

You will definitely be poking holes and tearing off limbs when un-armed. Piercing hands is part of martial arts which is what unarmed will be.
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Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:01 pm

But i'm hemiaphobic :O. I just wanna be able to slice people without having to see all the gross blood. And I don't want it to effect how I play the game. Does anyone understand where i'm coming from? Like at all?

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:20 pm

Yeah, I understand what you mean. Personally I don't mind blood in games, but I do know what hemophobia is. I was actually a bit surprised the others didn't (except for SynysterOne, wasn't surprised about his reaction, he often posts before/without thinking, one day that'll get him in trouble :roll: ).

For those who don't know, hemophobia(also, blood phobia) is an extreme and/or irrational fear of blood (often caused by/linked with past severe traumas, but not always, and let's not go further into this).

So it's perfectly understandable Zalak doesn't want to see blood in Kenshi (and no SynysterOne, this does not make him a "pansy"). I have no idea how much extra work a "blood switch" would be for Chris, so I really couldn't say whether or not it'll be there or not. I also don't know if it'll be possible to mod it out, or recolor it or something like that (would re-colored blood still trouble you?) so I can't make any promises on modding it out. I'm really sorry but it seems to me there's not much choice except asking Chris/informing him about your condition, and then wait and see what he'll do.

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:22 pm

Seriously? Hemophobes are afraid of red pixel blobs in videogames? Im not trying to be insensitive, im just surprised it goes that far. Besides like they said, dismemberment without blood... dont think its gonna happen, sorry.

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Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:31 pm

As with all phobias, there are of course certain gradations of hemophobia. It can range from being afraid only of actual real-life blood in your direct environment, to being all scared and trembling at the very mention of blood, much less the sight of anything that slightly resembles blood (and let's not forget that it's not just little red pixels, it's little red pixels coming from a cluster of little pink pixels we've been conditioned to see as a "human", small big difference there).
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Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:12 pm

This is gonna be hard to understand. But fake blood is actoulleh worse for me. I don't mind real blood unless it's linked to a serious wound. Then y'know.. The wound part I don't like.

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Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 am

Zalak123 wrote:The wound part I don't like.
:D Nobody does.*

Well, for now Kenshi doesn't have any blood in it. And since blood's one of these artsy-graphics thingies, I don't think it'll be implemented for now. I can understand if you might be hesitant to buy Kenshi because of the possibility of blood though. But perhaps you've already purchased Kenshi, in which case I'd congratulate you for giving your support for something you might potentially not enjoy.


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Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:16 am

Haven't bought it. But I planned on doing so.

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Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:00 am

I know full well what hemophobia is.
But it's a game.
For all you know it's red paint.
What if the people of the Kenshi universe weren't humans, and had green blood.
Would you still have a problem with it then?

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I don't have anything wrong with phobias or people who have them.
I have a MAJOR problem with irrationality.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:11 am

it will probably be quite simple to mod it out.

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Zalak123
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:49 am

I know very little programming so I can't really mod anything.

What if the code kept on changing with updates AND IT BROKE?

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Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:15 am

Most if not all phobias are irrational by nature. Saying the guy is being irrational is redundant, he cant help it. But like was said, removing the blood through mods will probably be simple, just keep in mind that hacking off limbs and general graphical violence will occur in this game, if you can cope with that then hesitate no longer.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:25 am

Not all phobias are irrational.

And as far as modding the blood out, it will be a simple matter. The code being changed shouldn't be a problem either.
The only thing you'd have to deal with is Chris adding more units that bleed, or different types of blood spatters or different ways in which your character may bleed.

All of these will be a simple patch for the version that requires it though.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:38 am

That's what I said in my post above. The game code might change and add more blood and stuff.:ooo


Anyways I don't really mind peoples arms coming off. I have an irrational type of hemeophobia.

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Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:41 am

Hay, its no prob that you have an blood phobia, but perhaps there are certain game play steps you can take to minimize its intensity. What about the graphic settings (the white screen) before the game loads, Maybe you can set a certain graphic detail and (possibly) disable the blood (I am not saying that there is setting for that, but maybe a texture setting or rendering type). Another idea would be during battle zoom out a little so the blood splatters are smaller, think of it as command and conquer style fighting alternative (just zoom back in when done). Again, specialize perhaps in alternative weapon styles (when possible) like unarmed, blunt and (I do not know the blood factor) maybe bows. Hold on, when blood splatters are implemented maybe you can replace the blood decal files in the Kenshi main folder (I don't know if there will be blood animation though).
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