[MOD] Harp's Combat Technique Balancing Mod

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Harpuea
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Updated! Working with 0.42.2

http://www.moddb.com/mods/combat-techniques-balancing

File also attached here.


Installation: Kenshi Ver 0.42.2

1.Make a backup copy of the gamedata.base in the

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Kenshi\data
or
C:\Program Files (x86)\Desura\Common\Kenshi \data

2. Extract the .rar file and move all .mod files into your kenshi/data folder. Overwrite the GAMEDATA.BASE file.
The mod still works with the default gamedata.base, but default techniques will compete with the mod and causes inconsistency. More details in "known issues".

3. Open mod.cfg within kenshi/data folder with notepad/wordpad and type out the name of the components of the mod that you wish to have. Such as "harp combat.mod".

It is one line per mod. Therefore, you can have multiple mods.

4. Save mod.cfg in notepad/wordpad.

5. Installation complete, launch the game.

Troubleshoot:

Q:When I try to start a new game, I hear a sound and a message saying that the mod is out of date, what do I do?

A: Kenshi is updated and made the mod obsolete. You will have to wait for me to update it or attempt to do it yourself. Reference "Known Issues" and the forums modding tutorial.

Q: This time it says the mod fails to load?

A: The .mod files are either misplace or spelled incorrectly in the mods.cfg file. Please double check.


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Includes:

Harp's Combat Techniques Balancing: Completely expanded the differences and charactertics between different weapon class.

Harp's Global Constant Mods: Changes attack slot, bleeding and damage modifiers to balance out the new combat techniques. Standard settings are still playable. -Optional.

Harp's NPC Mods: Added more NPC's weapon variety and also prevents NPCs from healing in mid-battle. NPC numbers and spawn rate remains the same.-Optional

Harp's Weapons Mod: Added more weapons variety from the game base files. -Optional


Compatibility:
Harp's Combat Techniques Balancing mod alone does not interfere with characters and NPCs mods. Even with the gamedata.base overwritten. Harp's NPC mods, however, will not guaranteed to work with other NPCs and Characters mod. Harp's NPC pertains to default game factions. New NPCs and new factions should all be compatible.

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Initial issues with standard combat techniques: I felt that the bigger weapons see a lot more uses and a lot more powerful than a standard katana. Everywhere I go in Kenshi, it is a giant weapons swing fest. As matter of fact, the saber, hacker, and heavy weapon class are actually faster than the katana class in the standard combat technique settings. Which is weird and not balanced at all.

Goal: Differentiate speed, damage, and characteristic for each weapon types as well as rearranging 1 weapon into a sensible (to me, anyway) category. Or simply give you guys ideas of how you want to differentiate weapons to your own taste and preferences in your own mods.

Katana(s)-

Pro:
-Excellent against single targets.
-Fast Speed
-Great for killing enemies that are trying to running away.
-Light Weight
-Insignificant change in combat potential if you lose the left arm.

Con:
-Lacks range and arc against groups of enemies. If you want to survive with a Katana user, don't get surrounded.
-Low damage combo and attacks only.
-Cannot break guard

Sabers-

Pro:
-Good at against single targets and groups.
-Medium Speed
-Balanced combo with speed, arc, and damage.
- Guard breaking does 1/4 damage.

Con:
-Harder to hit fleeing enemies.
-Disadvantageous if used one handed.

Hackers-

Pro:
-Widest arc
-Great Against Groups
-Guard breaking does 1/2 damage.

Con:
-Medium to Slow Speed
-ineffective if used one handed
-Slow

Heavy Weapons-

Pro:
-NIGH UNBLOCKABLE: If an enemy tries to block an attack swung at them using a heavy weapon, they will break an arm or a leg, or both. When fighting NPCs with heavy weapons, best to micro manage the fight and dodge out of the way.

Con:
-Very Slow
-Only have 2 high damage moves: Heavy Swing and Heavy Downcut.
-No low damage combo.
-Cannot be used one handed.

These are my philosophy in trying to create a unique feel for each weapon. If you want to see the damage/speed and things like that, please look at the mod using the game modding tool. Reference the modding tutorial in the Kenshi forums.

Combat Techniques found in Kenshi version 0.42.2:

These techniques are the base animation used for each weapon. The speed, damage, etc are set differently for each weapon category. Some weapon can use all animation, some can't. Some have the same animation, but does different things. IE: The Katana cannot use heavy downcut/ heavy weapons cannot use downward combo. Saber Heavy attacks does different damage than Hacker Heavy attacks.

heavy swing
heavy downcut
chop down static
chop down
cut left static
cut left
block up
block left

High damage attack are Heavy Downcut and Heavy Swing. Katana have Heavy Swing, but does normal damage and cannot breaks guard.

*Guard Breaking*: These are just heavy swing or heavy downcut with 2 attacks in 1 animation. Meaning, the character swing once, yet deal 2 hits. However, the hits are spaced far enough apart that a skilled fighter can potentially blocks both hits. Saber deals 1/4 damage on the second hit. Hacker class 1/2 damage on the 2nd hit. Heavy Weapons Deal 100% on both hits, 0 on the 3rd since the game does not yet allows you to edit the 3rd attack.

Why did I do that? I think it is rather unsatisfying to see a character swing a massive fragmented axe at an enemy and the enemy just blocks it as if the fragmented axe is a pillow filled with feathers.

-REARRANGEMENT

-Topper haven been moved to hacker class.

Having the topper uses the katana setting was pretty OP. It had longer reach as well as higher damage. Besides, the flat topper is a hacking weapon. So should the topper.

-Ringed and Horse Chopper Saber size have been reduced by 10 percent.

KNOWN ISSUES:

-Instant hits against non-resisting enemies, even with a heavy weapon. Fixed since 0.40.5

This means that if you are next to a unarmed civilian and attacks him, he just drops dead and no animation is played. On the other hand, against an armed gate guard with a weapon, an attack animation will be played. However, this could be useful against enemies that have their right arm disabled and civilians. They stand still as long as you don't have them targetted. Stand next to them and right click "attack target" and the hit can be instantaneous. If they don't faint right away, they will start running. De-target them and they will stop running away. Repeat the process until dead.

-The need to overwrite the gamedata.base

It is not possible to disable the game's default combat techniques via the mod files. Therefore, you have to have a gamedata.base with a completely empty slate in the combat techniques subcategory. The mod still works with the default gamedata.base, but default techniques will compete with the mod and causes inconsistency. If there is an update and you want to keep using the mod. Try opening the forgetting construction set.exe and delete everything in "Combat Techniques" from the gamedata.base files. Of course . . . This doesn't always work. . .

-Stop and stare

Sometimes people just stand there and stare at each other, I have no idea what causes this. Just move a bit and they will start fighting again.

HARP'S NPC MODS

Version 1

-Removed First Aid Kits from generic faction soldiers to prevent AI from healing in middle of a fight.

-Added Medics to all major factions

-Added weapons variety for various factions.

Version 2

-Citizens are slowed down so they are less annoying to chase. Clunky wooden sandals added.

HARP'S GLOBAL CONSTANT MOD.

Version 2
-Instantaneous Bleeding have been adjusted to make a character faint if ~4 non-vital body part reaches 0 hit points.

-Bleeding Rate have been adjusted so that if a character loses a right arm only, they will faint some time after if first aid is not recieved. It is to prevent NPCs from chasing an enemy that lost only their right arm around and around forever.

-BE ADVISED: You will bleed to death if you are alone!

-Global Damage have been increased to 1 from 0.75.

-Attack Slot have been increased from 3 to 4. It is to prevent the Katana from dominating in big group fights despite low arc and range.

Version 2

-Maximum damage to cause stumble is now 100 at maximum melee defense. The new speed of the Katana causes stun lock. Also, guard breaking can causes stun lock. This help resolves the issues and make combat much smoother.

Version 2.2

Attack chance difference multiplier reduced to 0.25, further preventing katanas from dominating in group fights.

HARP'S WEAPONS MOD

Version 2.2

These are simple manipulation of length, weight, damage values, etc. It is a simple way to add more variety to the game.

Added:

-Nodachi
-Slender Ringed
-Staff
-Straight-Katana extended
-Keen Katana
-Chopper
-Bone Breaker
-Horse Breaker

Available in shops as well as can be homemade. All manufracture now have a "Custom" designation for these weapons, ie "Truth Two Custom". Research tree included.

Please test this to see if you can craft it correctly and let me know.

WISHLIST:

-More weapon Categories

There are gaps and anamoly between the weapons. Such as short katanas, extended katana, and topper. Extended Katana and Topper have longer reach, but there is no way to make them have their own weapon speed. It is either katana or hacker, fast vs slow. Putting them into saber is not quite right either. Also the plank, it is not quite a hacker and not quite a heavy weapon. It does not look as convincing using the heavy weapon class speed and damage.

-More weapons

As of 0.42.0, clubs are in the game.

-The ability to make a weapon class or specific weapon defenseless.

Cannot make a class of weapon unable to block. Meaning, I wanted the Heavy Weapons class to go all out offense and cannot block incoming attacks. No matter what I tried, the heavy weapon class can still block incoming attacks. I did several testing with katana, sabers, as well as hackers to try to make them defenseless. They all go back to the standard blocking animation if you do not specify a combat techniques file or set "can block" values to "false" in weapons path.

-Switching Weapons between primary and secondary weapon without having to lose the right arm.

-Switching Weapons to the left arm, in case of injury or personal preferences or things like that. It is quite annoying to chase enemies down as well as standing there doing nothing cause you injured the right arm.

Please try it out, I would like to hear your suggestions and feedback.
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Last edited by Harpuea on Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:08 pm, edited 19 times in total.

bn20
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Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:23 am

Looks really awesome, gonna try it out now

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djfabiokk
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Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:44 pm

i dont get it, if its a balancing mod, why are the heavy weapons overpowered :roll:

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Harpuea
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Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:34 am

Heavy weapons are powerful, but they are very slow compared to the Katana or Saber. Powerful, but slow. The challenge with using the heavy weapons now is to complete your swing before you are hit by a faster weapon. Your characters attacks may be interrupted. The amounts of damage needed to interrupt the character depends on melee defense skills.

firebird496
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Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:35 pm

Would be great if you could update it, or can we use this still?

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Harpuea
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Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:59 am

You can still use it.

firebird496
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:54 am

Hmm =/ Whenever I try to start a new game with it, a pop up comes up saying that the mod is out of date and I will have to resave it to the construction folder, does that like fix it?

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Harpuea
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:43 am

Oh. It is now updated to 0.40.3 and that causes some problems. I will look into it carefully.

Jorcee101
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:05 am

Harpuea wrote:Oh. It is now updated to 0.40.3 and that causes some problems. I will look into it carefully.
Please do, this Mod looks awesome and I would love to use it

firebird496
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:10 am

Thank you very much Harp for looking into updating it! I can't wait to use your mod.

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Sydious
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:05 pm

the sooner this is functional the better. nice job with the weapon class distinction. a very well thought out creation. in a sense u could refer to this as (sort of) a realism mod. because u'r not gonna sswing something that's 15-20 kilo at the same speed as something that's 1 kilo. nor are u gonna be able to use that 1kilo sword to block a weapon that's, well in comparison, ABIG MUDDAH FUGGAH. Like I said man, A 'very' well thought out creation. Down side is, every time chris drops an update yer gonna have to update. My fortune telling skills are saying u may be a little bizzy lawl.
But yea, I hope you can see the kudo's in there. If not... K+K+K+K+K+K+K+K+Kudos.
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FeetonGround
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:39 am

Yes! This looks great, go Harp go Harp go Harp go!

elmonodara
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Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:38 pm

The mod sounds like a nice change just waiting for the update so I can use it.

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Mr_Irish_Man
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Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:46 am

has it been finished yet with the update cause i just downloaded it and installed it and it doesnt work says something about being old mod type
Sand oh god not more sand......... When does it end!

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Harpuea
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:15 pm

I have updated the mod. Please try it out and tell what you think. Thanks.

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Harpuea
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Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:40 am

Oh... Just my luck. Right when I updated to 0.40.5, Chris releases 0.42.0 . . . Anway, updated for 0.42.0 now. Also, I took the time to post the description here too.

pkchoi89
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Thu May 02, 2013 4:49 pm

Looks like a great mod!

Any plan to make this compatible for 42.2?

Morrigi
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Wed May 29, 2013 3:19 am

Well this is unfortunate. OP hasn't been on is almost a month.

I do hope that this mod or something like it become available for the new version.

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Harpuea
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:32 pm

Updated for 0.42.2

Try it out and let me know what you think, thanks.

Morrigi
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:55 pm

Cool, I'll try it out next weekend when I have some free time.

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