Kenshi it's unplayable.

[Owlink]

Hi. First of all English is not my language, this message may be poorly written, sorry for the inconvenience.
I was trying to talk directly to the developers, but no, they just give us a sad forum for the big problem that is this game.
Well, I start by saying that it is my favorite game, but at the same time it is my most hated game. why? Because where is the game? I only see one BIG BUG. I pass all the system requirements and the game gives me huge and unacceptable eternal loads.
And yes, I can hear you saying "Mimimi, mods can improve the game" I have 150 mods and the problem is the same or bigger. My game looks like a Minecraft and still needs several minutes to load a zone?????? My last chance is to play on 600x600, I don't know.
Where is the pathfinding? Where are the collisions? Where is the languages? Where is the correct dialogues? The modders say "Hey, I can fix it" but no, it's not fixed. All mods have problems or incompatibilities, and MODDERS CANNOT DO THE SAME AS DEVELOPERS. That's why I feel like an engineer, configuring mods and fixing them FOR NOTHING, because problems can come up all the time, all times. Do I really need a mod that COMPLETELY CHANGES vanilla buildings to play without bugs? Making this I don't play your game, I play the community game. Ok, if this is the problem, why don't they give us users the game code and develop it us? I'm not serious, but is this really LO-FI's only solution?
Your game is broken and unplayable and I see no updates, I see no love or desire for the game. incomplete lore, incomplete systems, incomplete everything and my solution is a forum? Ok, it's an embarrassment

LO-FI Starts on develop Kenshi 2 and do you remember the last update from Kenshi 1? I don't f***** remember, only merch announcements, thanks to modders (For making YOUR work, it's the minimum) and other things to keep conformist happy.
I wan to see this world stories, I don't want the second empire shi*ts without knowing the third empire lore. For this reason I ask again, where is my game?

If you need 67 years to make Kenshi 2 it's okay, if you give me the FINAL OF THE FIRST GAME. I pay for a COMPLETE game and I need 150 mods to complete the game... Hmm... someone can see this like me or I'm crazy?

Why the people say to LO-FI "YES YES MAKE KENSHI 2, DON'T WORRY WITH YOUR INCOMPLETE FIRST GAME"? Do you really think when Kenshi 2 arrives LO-FI will do something for Kenshi 1? Or only will working in new updated for his new game? This smells so bad...
I appreciate Chris Hunt and his work, because this is titanic, I try to be considerate for all the problems he went through to make his dreamed game, but I think the fame can was changing his mentality.

All of this is like an introduction to make a question to LO-FI (I know, nobody will answer me but) This is the future for the game? If Yes will be the answer or the time give me the same answer, I think my trust for the company is over.
And if you respect your own confidence, have to buy with responsibility. If the answers will be yes, you must be cut all links with companies like them.

And sorry if my message sounds aggressive or something, it's not the point, I have hundreds of hours playing Kenshi and like I was saying, It's my favorite game, but I can't to have blind eyes when my favorite game fights with me when I try to love and play it
Before all THANKS YOU TO CHRIS for making the most special game in the world and THANKS TO MODDER COMMUNITY for preserving and restoring the game for making the best experience.

[Hatsune_Neko]

The first game reached its engine limits without causing major performance issues. the only way to fix that is to remake the game. aka upgrading the games engines. but doing so would take at minimum of 6 years. its easier to make a new game.

The performance you are talking about is because your playing the game on a HDD plus having 150+ mods. installing the game onto an SDD really boosts its performance.

Kenshi has its issues. no mistaking that. but it sounds more like your system might not be enough to handle the game properly.
might want to tell us your systems specs. we might be able to help with some suggestion's.

[Owlink]

I don't know about engine use max capacity, but i don't speak about that, I speak about finish the game, about add content from the modders with good performance, about updates, the Lore is precious and dense but incomplete, some cities or locations there are empty or broken. 80% percent of Kenshi players use Pathfinding Mods, Performance mods, Reactive world for wins better experience with the world states mechanics and fix it... etc. I use this typical mods but need a lot of more cause I feel bored without the option for example to take cities, or more starts, or for fix Spanish official translation, or idk, Kenshi world and mechanics give to developers so many options, for work with modders, with community, for implement better compatibilities or something like that, for make community content vanilla... But no... Only merch announcements. I know better forms to upgrade my pc for wins better performance, but I don't want to find more solutions for something that the users fix themserlves. I want fix from the developers... Why not fix the pathfinding, or add locations with books or NPC with lore? If the engine uses the max capacity, fix rest of the eternal list of broken things no? I think that can change so many problems with the game or I need to talk about the BUGHOUSE or better i say BUGGEDHOUSE or Y House? It's so funny when my characters have 100 in all stats and can take down civilizations with his hands but he loss against a door or a wall... Hahahaha almost is a part of the kenshi world story, legendary fighters lossing against terrifyng door

[Hatsune_Neko]

the game is finished as per the game engine limitations.
the devs have tried to fix pathing. they have used at least 3 different engines. the primary one, and much later 2 pathing engine changes.

Kenshi's main engine only uses a single threaded architecture. which is where the issues arise the most.
changing the game from single to multi threaded is a very long process.
the long loading times is due to the game having to many features for its game engine to handle properly. several items are pushed to the GPU to handle instead of the CPU.

also many issues the game still has is directly related to its current outdated engines. there is no fixing them without upgrading the entire thing. then that will create its own bugs and issues.

I know you mean well, but Kenshi is a finished game. no more work beyond bug fixing and the occasional back port form the new games FCS is done.

Kenshi 2 will be more like what the Dev envisioned with a game engine that can handle what he wants this time.
Kenshi 2 should be done some time before 2030.

[Owlink]

Your reply makes me feel sad. I don't feel this game complete. Game lore is precious but tiny, 95% percent of npc are useless and don't say anything about the world or stories, robots don't have memories about Second Empire, Stobe's giant only have a body but don't have any interaction with the world, some aditional info if you speak with a npc about him or nothing, giant places with epic names but without nothing, world feels poor interactive... etc. And we have mods for fix this... ¿Mods? And developers what?
I can understand you about the engine limits but not with the contents limits. Modders can make all things or fix it but the developers only make another game, I feel no sense. I don't have any illusion for Kenshi 2 cause I feel scammed with Kenshi 1 and Unreal Engine is a cancer, Kenshi was make it from the community, his engine is sh*t but the funny is the infinite forms to edit it and love of the players for him. Unreal unpersonalize his players and his communities, the perfect form to bring a generic game.
That was all I will say, I don't want to loss your time, only i was try to find solutions but you say to me: "This is all, my friend" and i can't make more.

Thanks you for you time and answers. You put out my eyes bandage with the present or future of my relationship with the company. Have a great day!

Bye bye Lo-Fi. Thanks for all, sorry for not want this.