Games Workshop, you disapoint me

[iSuck345]

Now you are just being a bully. I respect you copyrighting "Adeptus Astartes" and "Warhammer 40k/40000: Space Marine", but "Space Marine"!? That is just too much. MANY other Sci-Fis have used the term before you, it's part of the SCI-FI universe, not yours, not warhammer's, only of sci-fi.

For people who don't understand, go see this:

http://boingboing.net/2013/02/06/games- ... bully.html

[Blxz]

Wasn't something like this happening for Blizzard's original Star Craft release? I think the marines were going to be called space marines until GW got snappy. Not that it really matters.

[1337]

Makes me remember this: http://www.1up.com/news/bethesda-scroll ... oing-court

[iSuck345]

I wonder if the big boys won... also, this is not the first time GW has swed. Thoose butthurt ***holes have already attempted to make a site remove it's board games: http://boingboing.net/2009/11/28/games- ... decla.html. This made me lol , especially because it was just for a re-announcement of SPACE HULK. God, some people jeez louise...

[neronix17]

Odd, you usually have a brown nose for GW but seriously copyright and trademarking in general always goes way to far, there's always something being disputed because some arrogant fool decided to trademark a commonly used word or term. At this rate it will be about twenty years till you can't say hello without breaking some sort of copyright with 'Hello Kitty'. Did you know that the song 'Happy Birthday' cannot be used on a TV show without permission or paying royalties for it? Ridiculous right?

[1337]

Thats why sony used Bluray instead of blueray

About a year ago, in belgium, there was talk about nursery schools having to pay royalty because the toddlers sing them while in school -_-

[neronix17]

About a year ago, in belgium, there was talk about nursery schools having to pay royalty because the toddlers sing them while in school -_-

Sadly that doesn't surprise me, pretty same thing has been talked about here and a few other places too, I guess that's what happens when a company pays $15m to get the copyright. I've noticed in the past few years that a lot of TV shows actually make a point of it by starting the "Happy-" Then get cut off for some ridiculous reason.

It's silly and is giving them very little in return by doing it, the royalty was something like up to $700 at one point which would probably be pocket change to the company who owns it. It's like getting royalties for someone singing 'All the single ladies' at a ladies night out, apart from 'Happy Birthday to you' being the most recognizable song in the English language, it's been around since the 1800's, no copyright should last that long. Although it does end for many countries in 2016, pretty sure in the USA and UK it ends in 2030.

Oh and someone mentioned The Elder Scrolls vs Scrolls, that's just as bad, nobody should be able to copyright a single word from a title, especially such a commonly used word. I'm not saying that just because it's Notch and Mojang but simply because Zenimax were wrong to even bother doing that, the only case a word should be able to be copyrighted is when it's unique to something, like Redguard and Dragonborn would be fine because they made those up for TES lore. What's next? They have the word 'The' copyrighted? There are so many ridiculous things that come up through copyright, it is a good thing to have it but it's just abused so often now, when it's used the right way it simply protects peoples work from being stolen, at the moment it's preventing anyone from making things to protect in the first place.

[1337]

Yeah for the scrolls thing, their excuse was sth like: it could confuse our customers. And some other stuff like that.

I just remembered that in one "community" episode, the episode starts with them singing: ... toooo youuu.
They then say that they didn't sing the whole song because troy is a jehovah witness and that those people don't celebrate birthday, but maybe it was actually because of royalties issues

[iSuck345]

Get ready until they copyright the term "coffin mech". Since while they're ahead, why don't they copyright "The Almighty Dead Dude" (refering to the almighty dead Emperor of humanity)? In fact, they problably will copyright "Emperor" and Humanity". And why not "Unreasonable hatred and zeal" and "Genocide"?

[TheCowabungaKid]

Wasn't something like this happening for Blizzard's original Star Craft release? I think the marines were going to be called space marines until GW got snappy. Not that it really matters.

Umm, well the Space Marine-like guys in StarCraft, that's a different story. Blizz (afaik) originally wanted to make games based on the Warhammer universe, but eventually backed off and instead created WarCraft and StarCraft. And sorry, but let's face it...it WAS just a huge rip-off of GW's Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer: 40.000. With that background, I can't really blame GW for being bitchy when it comes to copyright questions...not saying it's okay, but I kinda get it.

[neronix17]

Yeah I can see Starcraft being a complete copy of W40k, marines = space marines, zerg = tyranids, its kind of ridiculous actually...but Warcraft not so much, it more seems like a typical fantasy than a copy considering the fact that orcs, undead, elves and all that are pretty generic things in comparison. Again it doesn't excuse them for being so whiny about it but you can on the odd occasion see why those arguments happen.

[TheCowabungaKid]

Yeah I can see Starcraft being a complete copy of W40k, marines = space marines, zerg = tyranids, its kind of ridiculous actually...but Warcraft not so much, it more seems like a typical fantasy than a copy considering the fact that orcs, undead, elves and all that are pretty generic things in comparison. Again it doesn't excuse them for being so whiny about it but you can on the odd occasion see why those arguments happen.

Well on the face of it, I would agree. But knowing that the original plan was to make Warhammer games...

[neronix17]

Yeah I can see Starcraft being a complete copy of W40k, marines = space marines, zerg = tyranids, its kind of ridiculous actually...but Warcraft not so much, it more seems like a typical fantasy than a copy considering the fact that orcs, undead, elves and all that are pretty generic things in comparison. Again it doesn't excuse them for being so whiny about it but you can on the odd occasion see why those arguments happen.

Well on the face of it, I would agree. But knowing that the original plan was to make Warhammer games...

Yeah I know, I was just meaning at a glance it wouldn't be nearly as noticable, funny that warcraft ended up being a massive financial success and GW are probably a bit sour that they didn't get in on that actually seeing the latest prices for GW models it seems like they are trying to make up for that by literally costing an arm and a leg alongside a heart transplant and bone marrow...seriously they are charging double what they were when I started...

[TheCowabungaKid]

Well, luckily I don't have to worry about that, since I only play pen & paper and not the tabletop games. Still, I'm not surprised that WarCraft had much more success than Warhammer. Warhammer is far more complex, with a background universe so detailed it borders on insanity. Most people don't want to put up with all that information to understand what's going on, but for me it's just SO amazing.

EDIT: Okay, by now about anyone can tell I'm a bit biased on the issue, but hell...who isn't, one way or the other...

[iSuck345]

We can't blame them for that. They released a starcraft alpha, they got 2 names from the fans: "Orcs in space" and "Warcraft goes purple". They have failed MISERABLY at trying NOT to rip-off GW and make sure it wasn't seen, but in beta they had improved it and then came the original, which was still a rip-off. If you want to laugh at it's origins, go see it's alpha.

[neronix17]

This and this

[vladimir01]

dasdeverything___dlcopyrightediiii

[iSuck345]

Both have range, both have mellee and this is the proof that Blizzard ripped off.

Blizzard's answer: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep ... o-hell.png

[Nuclear]

*Copy-writes the word Nuclear*
It's suing time.

[Blxz]

*Copy-writes the word Nuclear*
It's suing time.

Correct, Mr Oppenheimer is coming for you!