Cutting limbs off!

[dragyouintohell]

I think it would be really cool to cut limbs off awake or unconscious npcs. You could do it in the desert with a percentage they would die from blood loss depending on your medic skills. Or you could tie them up, take them to your base and wait until they're awake, and then give them a talk saying how they chose the wrong side, and then cut their legs off!

[Mattk50]

Uh, i dont think the game is aiming to be a mutilation/torture simulator.

[Gazz]

It would definitely make the logistics of bounty hunting easier!

[dragyouintohell]

Uh, i dont think the game is aiming to be a mutilation/torture simulator.

Well, you can't allow Kenshi to not have torture in it, how would you get information from an enemy Npc? Baking them cookies and asking nicely? Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

[Santaissick]

Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

You don't sound like a very nice guy. Never tried saying please?

[demidevil]

Uh, i dont think the game is aiming to be a mutilation/torture simulator.

Well, you can't allow Kenshi to not have torture in it, how would you get information from an enemy Npc? Baking them cookies and asking nicely? Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

Hungry bandit leader- Your never get anything out of me
Me- Wow man have you lost weight, you look great
Hungry bandit leader- I haven't eaten in six months of course I lost weight
Me- Well whatever you'be doing its working
Hungry bandit leader- its called starvation
Me- Well You know if your hungry I have these freshly baked cookies
Hungry Bandit Leader- YOU MONSTER,
Me- Tell me where your base it. (picks up cookie from plate and licks it)
Hungry bandit leader- (sweating) come on man, I weigh sixty pounds, let me get a bite in.
Me- (Takes bite out of cookie, throws rest on ground)
Hungry bandit leader- Your wasting it, Wasting it, YOU BASTARD
Me- (Puts cookie up to bandits mouth then takes it away and eats it)
Hungry bandit leader- To the north the north

Or at least thats how it happened in my head, also Chris plans on including robotic limbs so chances are likely you can lose your own.

[Kamos]

Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

You don't sound like a very nice guy. Never tried saying please?

Oh but please is so boring, you get to hear hear that all the time whether genuine or disingenuous. The sound of someone being tortured? It's rare. Sweet in a way, like a bird you've never heard before. Every scream a melody. You just can't hit notes like that without some help.
Can you imagine. Some crazed cannibal NPC named Kamos takes you to the ground and crouches over your body and asks, "Will you sing me a song my dear raven?.. No?... We'll see."

[iSuck345]

Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

You don't sound like a very nice guy. Never tried saying please?

I tried it once. Got a cat atack on my face, then a truck nearly hit me, so yeah... **** that! >:(

[iSuck345]

You may have that kind of torture, but I use both psycological AND physical atacks

Imperial official: YOU WILL NEVER GET ANYTHING OF ME, FOR THE ALM-
me:mighty emperor is with you blah blah blah, anyways ever heard of something called EMpalation? There was even an emperor nicknamed "The Empaler"
Imp. off.: What's that?
<I put a stick up his butt>
Imp. off.: AGH YOU MONSTER, but yet so weaker, try harder...
<I smash his fingers with a door, then hit his head with a stick of a fence. He spits blood>
Imp. off.: is that all you got?
<I cut off both his arms and immediatly burn the wonds, but he still lives>
Imp. off.: as I said: so weak...
me: hey, remember that prison? What was it? Oh right... Alcatraz
<the officer gulps>
Me: one person dies a week, another gets hanged for murder and COUNTLESS rape charges...
Imp. Off. : you woldn't dare!
Me: oh and remember... Heft?
Imp. Off. : What do you me-
Me: your hometown, so defenseless, so poor and because of that no mercenaries are there to defend it. Oh what wold happen if I wold go there and butcher everyone, including your fam-
Imp. Off. : ENOUGH I'll TELL YOU, just... leave my family alone. The patrols have a break in every single 2 hours, they have a 3 minute break, and they never check traders because the town is bankrupt, also 1/3 of the guards are gonna leave in 2 days and there will be only millitia to defend, they will have breaks of 10 minutes and will change shifts every 30 minutes! That's all I know about Capital, now please leave my village alone...
Me: oh about that, I visited it, and I brought a little gift for you, even though it... cried a little bit. The little one of course
Imp. Off. : YOU DONT MEAN-
<I throw the head of his daughter, and he cries over her. And I get to raid Capital >

[Mattk50]

Uh, i dont think the game is aiming to be a mutilation/torture simulator.

Well, you can't allow Kenshi to not have torture in it, how would you get information from an enemy Npc? Baking them cookies and asking nicely? Torture could be used for getting information out of people.

The way you phrase everything in this thread sounds like your more interested in the torture/mutilation than the possible place it could fit into gameplay.

[Blxz]

Haha, unconscious people? So you basically want to be able to mutilate defenseless people. Oh the evilness.

I do think limb loss has a place in this game, I just don't know how I feel about "Right-click / cut limb" based actions. Severed limbs should come about more organically such as from strong cutting attacks to limbs that push them far below in the negative numbers in regards to limb HP.

[Marilous]

When/if limbs start to come off it seems like a guy with a heavy weapon in a battle would just send limbs everywhere.

[TheHappyPyro]

You may have that kind of torture, but I use both psycological AND physical atacks

Imperial official: YOU WILL NEVER GET ANYTHING OF ME, FOR THE ALM-
me:mighty emperor is with you blah blah blah, anyways ever heard of something called EMpalation? There was even an emperor nicknamed "The Empaler"
Imp. off.: What's that?
<I put a stick up his butt>
Imp. off.: AGH YOU MONSTER, but yet so weaker, try harder...
<I smash his fingers with a door, then hit his head with a stick of a fence. He spits blood>
Imp. off.: is that all you got?
<I cut off both his arms and immediatly burn the wonds, but he still lives>
Imp. off.: as I said: so weak...
me: hey, remember that prison? What was it? Oh right... Alcatraz
<the officer gulps>
Me: one person dies a week, another gets hanged for murder and COUNTLESS rape charges...
Imp. Off. : you woldn't dare!
Me: oh and remember... Heft?
Imp. Off. : What do you me-
Me: your hometown, so defenseless, so poor and because of that no mercenaries are there to defend it. Oh what wold happen if I wold go there and butcher everyone, including your fam-
Imp. Off. : ENOUGH I'll TELL YOU, just... leave my family alone. The patrols have a break in every single 2 hours, they have a 3 minute break, and they never check traders because the town is bankrupt, also 1/3 of the guards are gonna leave in 2 days and there will be only millitia to defend, they will have breaks of 10 minutes and will change shifts every 30 minutes! That's all I know about Capital, now please leave my village alone...
Me: oh about that, I visited it, and I brought a little gift for you, even though it... cried a little bit. The little one of course
Imp. Off. : YOU DONT MEAN-
<I throw the head of his daughter, and he cries over her. And I get to raid Capital >

Good luck, my company has it's HQ there. Bring steel, bastard.

[ZanathKariashi]

Depending on how advanced the higher research level robotic prosthetics become, being able to WILLINGLY remove a limb, in the relative safety of a medics tent (rather then losing it in battle), might be a lucrative opportunity for boosting your soldiers performance or resistance to damage.

A typical man walks in...and a few hours and dozens of agonizing screams and the sounds of power-tools later.....a hulking cyborg Quasi-Space-Marine-Samurai looking MFer walks out.

But yes, if you capture someone, you really should have the full option of maiming/hobbling and/or killing them. No more Jonin's zipping off into the sun set with their bounty intact....though I suppose just adding leg and wrist irons would serve similar purpose.

[hbrown]

In the feature you cna pay back by making them your pets... i mean slaves.

[Rennev]

Better yet I would like to use severed limbs as weapons! Keeping my worst enemys arm as a token and using it to bitchslap that mofo in the face! Hahaa!

[arthoz]

This is a nice issue to discuss...looking at it moral-wise it would raise a lot of concern and interest. Yes torturing and causing your enemies to die hediously have it's own charms. Ask anyone who enjoys the Dungeon Keeper series. The delicious symphony of different type of heroes chained in the torture chamber...and later I had lots of joy turning captives into skeleton soldiers or stuffing the gravesite with their corpses to raise an army of vampires...

But honestly in real life I'm quite a gentle person. Games are just place where we indulge with dark desire in life. Believe me, there's a lot of people here that enjoys a bit of torture and painful screams just to let of some stress. I myself sometimes watch the cinematics from God of War series because they are "interesting"...imagine doing all that painful moves on people who annoys you all day long...

Although by allowing function to cut limbs and torture might also attract a lot of negative attention. I believe there's a lot of games that were banned because they are considered to be too horrible to play... Not to start any debate but just pointing out the pros and cons.


Ok now let see this issue on game-wise perspective apart from the obvious torture option. Someone did ask in other topic if there could be a nice finishing move. At this moment a strong enough attack would send the enemy body flying. What if this function is integrated in combat? When your attack is powerful enough to cause -100 damage or more to a limb causing it to be cut off in combat. Imagine a solo legendary unit fighting against a huge mob of enemy where limbs and heads fly in every direction and the ground soaked with splashes of blood...

There's mention of a cannibal faction and also limb replacement...why not become a merchant of sorts? Become a butcher to supply the cannibal with first class beef. Or become an body snatcher and you could literally sell a first class swordarm that would fetch a good price in the black market. Not to mention you could start to customize your army with stolen body parts...

Btw in many literature and culture, people collects head, scalp, ear or other smaller parts of the body as trophy...so I'm in support of getting body parts for bounty instead of the whole body. Besides, why waste a lump of good fresh meat when all that is needed for bounty is the head? The designer did mention this game is to be played in any way a player want. Why not play as an enterpising body-snatching-crazy-surgeon-cannibal?

The grave and burial function would also be useful since you could start digging up fresh graves to get interesting stuff out or old ancient graves for relics. Maybe I'll list out other useful game concept for graves/burial in the proper topic location.

Edit: Just an afterthought...you could also populate the world with maimed people/villager/beggar. Then you could help these people by giving them new limbs as part of a long major quest. At least those pesky bandits would be harvested for good use...in addition of solving world hunger...Hannibal style...

[Hatsune_Neko]

gives new meaning to hungry man dinners

[xPinsir]

I really like this idea. I was thinking the same thing but instead of just having a missing limb forever I was thinking that you should be able to craft some kind of robotic steampunkish type of limb to replace it.

[Hatsune_Neko]

I really like this idea. I was thinking the same thing but instead of just having a missing limb forever I was thinking that you should be able to craft some kind of robotic steampunkish type of limb to replace it.

that's already planned.
it will eventually be added to the game