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WaryWiard
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Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:46 pm

Will we be able to build robotic companions?
I would love to have a robot samurai.
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Although since he would be a robot, he would be unable to improve his skills without an upgrade.
Having a cargo bot capable of carrying a whole lot of stuff, and still being fast would be great as well.

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:43 am

Tottally man. Robot samurais, half naked chicks duel wielding MGs. all the stuff, isn't it perfect?

Lawl, but no. If you're companion lost his chest or head, he'd be dead. We dont have the tech yet to recreate plastic hearts or brains. *WE DONT EVEN HAVE THAT TODAY IN RL! LAWL!*
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:09 am

TheHappyPyro wrote:Tottally man. Robot samurais, half naked chicks duel wielding MGs. all the stuff, isn't it perfect?

Lawl, but no. If you're companion lost his chest or head, he'd be dead. We dont have the tech yet to recreate plastic hearts or brains. *WE DONT EVEN HAVE THAT TODAY IN RL! LAWL!*
He's talking about a robot, not a cyborg or prosthetics overload. Did he say REbuild a companion? no.
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:11 pm

Didn't Chris say he thought about cybernetics, but wasn't sure how to do it without punching logic in the face?

...not saying he will put it in the final game, just that he was toying with the idea.

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Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:42 pm

Robotic prosthetics are planned, the idea of fully functioning robots is a little far off. i doubt he'd implement it
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Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:45 pm

Pack robot then? Like Bigdog?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:03 am

I've actually seen bigdog before, but if pack robots were to be implemented i'd think a robot with treads would be better
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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:40 am

You think something with treads would be able to make it up the sort of steep hills this game has?

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:56 am

Well, to be fair, it is a game

But i was thinking more about the sand
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Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:00 am

Simply... big dog got invented some years ago

(not sure if exact) the big *Samurai* time started at about 1545

example: Do we now today have a samurai robot?!!/a robot wich can run like human without cables on him?

im pretty sure there will be not such things
but who knows what the devs have in mind!
just hope they dont fuck it up and keep it abit seriouse...
i was already scared when the money was called *cats*

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SpeedKiller wrote: i was already scared when the money was called *cats*
I don't see the problem. I have never thought of the animal when in-game. It is entirely possible that there is no animal reference and it is simply a co-incidence. Any other cat references in-game?
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Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:00 pm

it just sound wierd to me

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Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:27 pm

WaryWiard wrote:Will we be able to build robotic companions?
I would love to have a robot samurai.
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Although since he would be a robot, he would be unable to improve his skills without an upgrade.
Having a cargo bot capable of carrying a whole lot of stuff, and still being fast would be great as well.
I think that is actually so cool. I'd be so into that just having two robots fighting each other, beating the absolute snot out of each other. Also I'd imagine him having a lovable personality like HK-47 from Knights of the Old Republic. I really agree with the need for upgrades rather than training but with that it opens up the possibility of people only using robots instead of people. The only way to counter that would be: Making the robot parts EXTREMELY expensive or making the robot parts EXTREMELY hard to get and it takes a lot of parts.

As for the cats thing, I do not understand why cats is bad. I in fact love the name and wish money was actually named cats. Plus our dollar bills could have cat faces on them and that'd just be too much awesome too handle.

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The Biolizard wrote: having a lovable personality like HK-47 from Knights of the Old Republic.
haha, I find that about as unlovable as possible. Some crazy droid that is very desperate to end your life. interesting, cool maybe....lovable - not to me.
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Blxz wrote:
The Biolizard wrote: having a lovable personality like HK-47 from Knights of the Old Republic.
haha, I find that about as unlovable as possible. Some crazy droid that is very desperate to end your life. interesting, cool maybe....lovable - not to me.
He's always making funny jokes and snarky comments. I say that is very lovable. Even if he is designed only to murder.

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Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:17 pm

WaryWiard wrote:Will we be able to build robotic companions?
I would love to have a robot samurai.
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Although since he would be a robot, he would be unable to improve his skills without an upgrade.
Having a cargo bot capable of carrying a whole lot of stuff, and still being fast would be great as well.
Certainly a possibility. Making workable, robotic prostetic limbs is much, much harder than a robot. Specially if you don't require the robot to look human-ish.

Only problem though is that a robot will just be a metal statue without an AI, either a true AI or false AI. That would require writing the program, which would require computers. Not sure Kenshi has that though, or if Chris plans to include such. Could go the Fallout route though and have discs/cubes/tapes/whatever that has already written AIs on them scavenged from ruins of the old world.

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Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:56 am

WaryWiard wrote:Will we be able to build robotic companions?
I would love to have a robot samurai.
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Although since he would be a robot, he would be unable to improve his skills without an upgrade.
Having a cargo bot capable of carrying a whole lot of stuff, and still being fast would be great as well.

Again, suggestion forums would be a better place to put this ;)
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:55 am

Xanmyral wrote:Certainly a possibility. Making workable, robotic prostetic limbs is much, much harder than a robot. Specially if you don't require the robot to look human-ish.

Only problem though is that a robot will just be a metal statue without an AI, either a true AI or false AI. That would require writing the program, which would require computers. Not sure Kenshi has that though, or if Chris plans to include such. Could go the Fallout route though and have discs/cubes/tapes/whatever that has already written AIs on them scavenged from ruins of the old world.
while this is true today, in a post apocalyptic environment apocalypse isnt as kind to all technology equally. And, even before an apocalypse technology can develop differently in different timelines. For example, the egyptians achieved levels of precision with their rock cutting and placement we are unable to acheive today. Why is this? Well, because we haven't needed to stack all those rocks in our modern society, so we never redeveloped the same methods after their original knowledge was lost. (or there are some really, really stupid people who think well positioned stones is evidence for aliens assisting them in... positioning stones well)

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Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:35 am

Xanmyral wrote:Making workable, robotic prostetic limbs is much, much harder than a robot. Specially if you don't require the robot to look human-ish.
We still can't make human-like AIs, but have multiple living cyborgs and even successfully working robotic prosthetic limbs. Given the futuristic setting probably the only thing you need to do to get a prosthetic arm is to go to any better equipped surgeon and attach few nerve endings.

I don't think fully fledged androids would fit that well into the setting.

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