[0.98.62] Having bionic limbs triggers skeleton comments from NPCs

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drakasin
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:29 pm

Hello again.

I have a Shek character, whose all 4 limbs have been replaced by robotic equivalents. I was just travelling through Flotsam when the traders there kept commenting, "Skeleton!", "No no no no no", "ARGH a skeleton, those souless eyes give me the creeps" and other such comments, as if I was playing a Skeleton, not a Shek. I'll see during my playthrough if I get other such comments from other NPCs over the world.

Seems that having robotic limb(s) somehow changes the way dialog AI behaves to regard you as a Skeleton race.

Edit1: Holy Nation soldiers treat me as a Skeleton instead of Shek

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:55 pm

thats intended.
The Holy Nation sees you as a skeleton now replacing your limbs with unholy artifacts. You are becoming a Skeleton in their eyes.

and this goes true for others who dislike or hate skeletons.
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:06 pm

Yes, but being literally called a Skeleton, not even a hint of Shek? Giving me comments as if I was entirely skeleton without any hint of Shek-ness? It doesn't make a sense. It's like if you had a bionic arm (someday, sigh) installed and suddenly you're not human anymore, you're entirely a robot and treated as a robot, not a human being with a robotic arm. See what I mean?

With HN it's understandable, but something like being called tainted by darkness or something like that instead of "Skeleton! Skeletons must not win!" wouldn't be so jarring. And instead of being called Skeleton by others, perhaps noting my robotic replacements but not as if my entire character was a Skeleton. Might as well play Skeleton then.

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:12 pm

to them it doesnt matter, you soiled your body with the impurer and evilness of technology.
to them you are nothing but a skeleton.
and hate has never made sense, it just is.
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:20 pm

You keep talking about HN, but what about others who aren't hostile to Skeletons? Also refer to my previous post in its entirety.

Anyway, might not be a bug, but rather a poor design choice (perhaps made in lack of time of adding entire branches of comments/dialogues). Haven't looked into the editor to see if there might be more appropriate AI comments for flesh-and-blood races with robotic limb(s) that aren't being used properly.

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:29 pm

i mentioned others, some do not like skeletons either, so they will make those comments.
the soulless eyes one though is kinda off and should not be applied to not full skeletons though. as that is kinda silly.
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Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

Talking to Iyo doesn't trigger skeleton "secret" comment, and treats me as an organic. When visiting Black Desert City, the Skeleton comment on my flesh body and thus don't treat me as a Skeleton, unlike Flotsam traders for exampl.e It seems that the problem is only with regards to passing comments rather than dialogue and only with certain comment packages (or however the system works).

I'll later go an see if the Shek call me tin man or not.

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