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Weapon skills aren't learned [FIXED]

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:30 pm
by drcidr
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Version:
0.30.1

Description:
Weapon skills aren't learned after a large amount of time is spent using them

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Katana skill is at 39
2. Spent hours using a heavy weapon (skill at 1), no increase. (In combat and at training dummy)

Consistency:
Very consistent

System specs/OS:
Windows 7 64-bit, AMD 5700 graphics card

Severity:
Major

Workaround:
None

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:49 pm
by tuhooja
well training dummys dont get any other than attack skill up ...have you used only 1 char in combat ? because if have many chars and others are better on using weapons then that char might not get any hit chances ...

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:56 pm
by drcidr
Yes, the character is in a party of four others. He definitely gets his hits in; Has probably hit about 50-ish times.

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:21 pm
by Mattk50
training dummys are currently effectively useless due to the super low skill bonus for the time. Might as well just capture bandits and have your guys cut them up in a jail cell for practice instead.

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:45 pm
by Captain Deathbeard
Is it only certain weapon types, or is it possible that the wrong weapon skill is levelling up instead?

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:39 am
by drcidr
I've tried leveling up both Sabre and Heavy, but no luck. I've also noticed that "Attack" and "Defense" skills are not increasing either.

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:51 am
by Marrow
One thing I noticed.

I made my first guy use a sabre-type weapon. He leveled it to around 15 or so, and I decided to switch to heavy-type. He's only at level 7 heavy, but it's taken over twice as long to train than it did to level sabre to 15.

This could possibly mean that the more specialized a character is, the harder it is for him to learn another weapon. Or as the saying goes, "Old dogs can't learn new tricks."

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:39 pm
by Santaissick
That's true. At the moment I'm having too squad members. At first I played for a long time with only one and trained his katana skill to 50. When he reached 50, I hired new guy, gave him katana, and gave my original a sabre. His sabre is only 7 and the new guys katana is 29.

So training too much with one weapon, makes training other weapons very slow. I'm guessing it's a bug but I'm not sure. If it's intended, I think it has to be changed. I bet a guy who has committed his life to perfect his fighting skill with katana can pretty easily learn other weapon types as well ;)

Re: Weapon skills aren't learned

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:42 pm
by valerius13
I have the same problem. I think the reason is that the AI compares your attack value to the attack value of your opponent and if yours is higher by more than a certain value your xp gain is next to zero, not only for the attack skill but for any weapon skill. (note: I went and studied a bit the global constants in the forgotten construction set. there's a line: skill diff xp 0x penalty 25. that's what I'm talking about.... I think)