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Old Man Liver
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:01 pm

jtgibson wrote:In fact, if we didn't have that whole bias against women historically, that would probably be how the real world would have built its armies.

Old Man Liver is pretty sure that barring females from combat has less to do with sexism, and more to do with the fact that reproductively, the female is more valuable. Compare the growth rate of two tribes. One with ten males, and one female, and the other with ten females, and one male. Surely it can be assumed the second tribe has a greater reproductive potential.

Also, when was it decided that females had more dexterity? Old Man Liver has great dexterity.
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Tolwrath
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:44 pm

Old Woman Liver is also likely a relative of Bob Dole. And see, right there is what I was talking about. Due to the human element we have a man (I think) who is more dexterous than the average female. If a game used just the standard gender differences, Old Woman Liver wouldn't be able to truly exist in the game in spirit. We don't know how he became more dexterous, it could be genetic, or it could be something in a lifetime of events that we don't know, but he is.

I don't know why the that particular gender division (strength/agility) became so popular. But for some reason it's often used as a restriction rather than a guideline or stereotype. They can be overcome and even reversed.

Also: due to sex of the offspring being determined by the man, it's possible the tribe of ten women could still die out.

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Cat_Fuzz
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:25 pm

I don't really care if in terms of gameplay women are more/less agile or stronger than males (personally would prefer if they were equal or able to be leveled the same.)

I just wouldn't want them to be prostitutes/whores or stereotypical tough amazon/superbitch archetypes. I'd rather they were just, ya know, women...

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:20 pm

I... yeah. Wonder what the other races will be like though.

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:33 pm

Who knows? For all we know, they could be unisexual, or females could be at first the ones that dominated men (saying that they were the "housewives" and women were the ones that had the honour of fighting in the battlefield). And about that of the prostitutes and other stereotypes, it's actually f***ing annoying rather than just "meh" like in the 90s.

In other words, it's just so f***ing old, and there is no way that it will be "ressurected" in ANY way.
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:41 pm

The direction switched again :cry: Why so serious!?

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:59 pm

Sorry to divert the conversation. It's been ages since I've played/been on the forms, does the creator still plan on having families?

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Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:43 pm

locustgate wrote:Sorry to divert the conversation. It's been ages since I've played/been on the forms, does the creator still plan on having families?
Did he ever plan on having families?
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Blxz wrote:
locustgate wrote:Sorry to divert the conversation. It's been ages since I've played/been on the forms, does the creator still plan on having families?
Did he ever plan on having families?
One of the old, year ago, threads/posts/something mention possibility of 'wife getting kidnapped' by a rival faction.

It might be http://www.lofigames.com/phpBB3/viewtop ... lit=family, which I'm remembering never mind.

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Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:03 am

Yeah, I thought my memory was correct. It was just some random idea brought up by some guy. But my argument against is still the same; the timescale is way off. Thankfully chris doesn't seem like he wants to make this a game where you raise families and stuff. I just think the focus needs to be on the game rather than any sort of feature bloat type ideas.
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locustgate
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:15 pm

I didn't really care about the idea of having kids but I liked the idea of your spouse getting kidnapped and you going to rescue them or kidnapping your enemies spouse.

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Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:29 am

Its gonna be hard kidnapping my guy's wives, seeing as i have WALLED IN THE ENTIRE VALLEY!!!! WITH MASSIVELY LONG WALLS!!!! WALLS SO LONG I HAD TO BUILD THEM IN STAGES TO KEEP THE COMPUTER FROM CRASHING!!!

wall jokes aside, what about geisha's? seeing as the artwork has the samurai theme going. Making a tea hall or Noh theater would be a great distraction for the wandering travelers. It would also be funny as hell to have a murderous gang of Noh opera performers running around the desert with highly trained geisha assassins.

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Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:21 pm

I like the idea of murderous Noh performers (especially if they perform while attacking). Not so keen on the geisha though. I mean face paint just doesn't seem like it'd do to well in a hot desert (or near a desert) area where people will be sweating a lot. Some type of hostess might work, but I feel like a full makeup geisha would be out of place.

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Tolwrath wrote:I like the idea of murderous Noh performers (especially if they perform while attacking). Not so keen on the geisha though. I mean face paint just doesn't seem like it'd do to well in a hot desert (or near a desert) area where people will be sweating a lot. Some type of hostess might work, but I feel like a full makeup geisha would be out of place.
geisha face mask?

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Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:50 pm

I think there is this sense of stereotype on archers should be females...if you consider in popular gaming stereotype usually they have men having extra strength while women having extra dexterity which is in real life could be vey far from the truth.

People who enjoys archery do understand the draw strength requirement of a bow let alone a military or hunting grade bows...but it's just a game so maybe people do have right to have a sense of perception from popular gaming point of view compare to real life.

Perhaps we could consider men and women attibutes to be more affected by culture rather than stereoptype views. For example in ancient greece athenian women are just like any weak and harmless people in most men dominant culture (no offense intended) while women in sparta are just as deadly as the menfolk themselves.

In my life there's not much different between men or women apart from the physical appearance. Only women tend to get into that murderous behaviour once a month and men grew more childish as they got older. :?

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Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:53 pm

Freelancer Loki wrote:
Blxz wrote:
GassyTaco wrote: I want to see how a town full of females and 1 man can stand.
Better have a lot of kitchens. =)
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Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:41 pm

Games that have wives and families where members (except children) can be kidnapped and ransomed/killed: http://www.theguild2.com/

so it could totally be in this game for sure.

TheUglyGuy
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Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:11 am

Better get my base full of baby stuff :mrgreen:

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Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:06 pm

philthymcnasty wrote:Its gonna be hard kidnapping my guy's wives, seeing as i have WALLED IN THE ENTIRE VALLEY!!!! WITH MASSIVELY LONG WALLS!!!! WALLS SO LONG I HAD TO BUILD THEM IN STAGES TO KEEP THE COMPUTER FROM CRASHING!!!
You tend to forget Ninjas.

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Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:28 pm

Ninjas, eh?
Harem no jutsu! :mrgreen:

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