research questions mostly pertaining to armor

[Evilmagic]

I'm on tech level 3 right now, looking around for the books to get up to level 4 and beyond. So far havent really had any luck managing to level past that. Also for plate smithing it says i need engineering level 1 to learn it? Is that a blueprint i have to find? Is it like the skill because the guy who is my researcher has like 75 engineering. Is there a better place to get ancient books besides 1 at a time for a boat load of cash in hive villages? Thanks in advance

[Smiley]

Hive villages sell 0-4 if i remember right. Also at the wayward station.

I dunno bout the HN cities cos i dont visit em often (-1Million rep )


And from what i know u can only get the heart protector as armor for now.

u can buy Head items/bleuprints in the new part of the map but so far i havent found any chest armor bleuprint but the heart protector.

Im guessing that that will change with the next map part since Brink is on there.

But i keep on looking/thieving :p

[Evilmagic]

i meant to put in the op that i cant figure out how to upgrade my armor crafting beyond prototype grade. theres just no option to research it. do i need a higher research level than level 3?

[Berzerker Jay]

It used to automatically go up for me as I crafted more, but now seems stuck at Prototype. Maybe it might be a bug? I've been trying to confirm but so far haven't ruled it as for sure.

I made dozens upon dozens of headbands in the hopes I'd eventually get a Standard Grade, at least, but it never advanced at all.

[Droll]

As far as my understanding goes, there is no longer research based gear upgrading so when you research the blueprint the first item crafted is always prototype. Any other items then should become standard grade, at least thats what happened to me.

I have no idea whether making a heap of standard grade armor will eventually allow you to make high grade but that might be the case.

[Sol Lignum]

I don't get what's wrong either. After importing into new map i've eventually crafted considerable amount of clothing and weapons, everything went out of crafting table as standart grade, and i haven't imported research in a first place. I haven't pay any attention to research though, just queue and been doing everything i need or thought i'll need one day.

I think what we need here is some research tree that'd allow us to check what's already done, so players in doubt could compare their results and figure what might be the problem.

[Smiley]

Ow my weapons come out as edge mk whatever. And iron hats as standard grade.

Offc some of the "junk" items dont get standard grade.

[Sol Lignum]

Ow my weapons come out as edge mk whatever. (...)

my bad about weapons. but heart protectors, driffster boots and leather shirts and turtlenecks are still applies

[Smiley]

All my chain/plate are standard, im now testing it with bandana's so hang on :p


Doesnt look like bandanas or traders leather get standard grade which everything else that i can see is standard.

[swillo]

As far as I have seen there is a bug in the crafting of armor. It was posted as such a while back.
No matter how much you craft or your crafting level ( I have one character in the 90's) you only get one quality of armor. For Merc leather that is prototype.

[Berzerker Jay]

I'm trying to remember exactly which version it was, but I definitely saw the quality of armour I was crafting increasing. I went from Prototype to Shoddy to Standard.

[Sol Lignum]

I'm trying to remember exactly which version it was, but I definitely saw the quality of armour I was crafting increasing. I went from Prototype to Shoddy to Standard.

Must've been a loooong time ago, back in the sands, somewhere around 0.70

[Berzerker Jay]

Not at all. It was only a few versions ago. I think it must have been 0.92.x, somewhere.

[Berzerker Jay]

Actually it was definitely 0.92.x. It was the same version where cannibals started assaulting outposts in Okran's Pride.

[Berzerker Jay]

Someone might remember exactly what version that is. In the meantime I'll try and find a reference to it.

[Drag00ne]

Even in the 0.93.4 things can go from shoddy to standard, never seen if they go higher grade. It's just some of them simply don't like Bandana.

[Berzerker Jay]

Actually, the bandana is specifically the one I had go Prototype-Shoddy-Standard.

[Drag00ne]

Actually, the bandana is specifically the one I had go Prototype-Shoddy-Standard.

Do you have any idea how many bandanas I crafted in 91.16 ? Tones of them and none gone beyond shoddy. I will try again in this version.

Update: I tried again and no bandana don't turn from prototype grade to standard on both clothing and leather station and same apply for rags and trader leather armors

[Sol Lignum]

dahell! weird stuff. somebody craft a leather shirt or turtleneck for the sake of experiment! mine was all standart all the time xD

[Drag00ne]

dahell! weird stuff. somebody craft a leather shirt or turtleneck for the sake of experiment! mine was all standart all the time xD

those go to standard grade pretty quick. Only this 3 I see they don't (bandana, Rag Cloth armor and Trader's leather armor)