[0.47] Bug on Weapon Smith III

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revolutehell
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Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:34 am

I have this bug where I can make weapons on Weapon Smith II but not on III.
Below is the screenshot I took to explain what is happening.
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Basically, I have no option of creating any weapon of any sort. But I can prove that I made that weapon because its labeled "Homemade". I spent some time gathering all the blueprints(mostly getting money).

I think I am sure no one has put this one up till now (at least i went through topic titles on v0.47) or its just me who is having this bug.

esajasforthis
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Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:11 pm

Hi there. I had the same problem and i looked for solution quite a lot and i've "fixed" this:
You're bench is too good. The 3rd class bench you have can't apparently build the old crummy stuff (since it uses steel bars, and old recipes worked with iron) therefore if you want to craft some more, either build a tier 2 bench (don't think you can) or develope to weapon smithing 8 or beyond.

So yeah, it's not really a bug, more like a planning oversight. It's quite annoying, but atleast you'll know how to deal with it :)

Bluehardt
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Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:24 pm

You should still be able to produce lower tier stuff on a newer machine, because there is no logical reason why not. Just a few minutes ago the same problem appeared to me. I've just found that you can upgrade your machines (just downloaded Kenshi recently), so I began to make everything I could better. After upgrading my Weapon Smith I to Weapon Smith II and expecting some new possibilities, I've sadly found that I'm unable to craft anything.

Adding extra resource slot shouldn't automatically remove option to make weapons, which base on only one (or less than maximum slot amount), so it is definitely a bug.

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PnzrNorm
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Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:30 pm

This was posted in the news post for 0.47's release.

Crafting benches now have their own separate crafting queues, rather than having one queue that automatically chose a bench to assign the job to.

Item values are now calculated dynamically from the value of the materials they are made from.

The Bench 3 can make the best weapons because it uses the highest grade materials to make them, while the 2 uses Fabric and Ore, and the 1 just uses Ore. Therefore the 3 benches will have different Grades of weapons available for manufacture since they utilize different grades of materials to make these weapons.

Honestly, I find this to be a huge buff because now you don't have a guy at Weapon Smithing Bench 3 making a Club, 003 while the guy at Weapon Smithing Bench 1 is complaining about having a crappy bench because he can't make Edge Type weaponry.

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Clawdius Talonious
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Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:48 pm

Is this a new bench or one from an older version, and does the issue persist in any bench you build? What level of research have you completed? Can you zip up your quicksave folder and attach it to this thread?

Someguy
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Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:57 am

Confirmed.

New game. Teched to bench III before building. New Smithing Bench III will provide no crafting option.

This is a feature breaker. I cannot craft any weapons as a result. No obvious workaround as I can't go back to bench II.

Attaching save file for your perusal. Steam cache re-validated 2 files but one was definitely Config setup (reset my settings), so probably irrelevant. Persists across saves. Was NOT present in my pre-.47 game imported to .47.
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esajasforthis
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Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:37 am

esajasforthis wrote:Hi there. I had the same problem and i looked for solution quite a lot and i've "fixed" this:
You're bench is too good. The 3rd class bench you have can't apparently build the old crummy stuff (since it uses steel bars, and old recipes worked with iron) therefore if you want to craft some more, either build a tier 2 bench (don't think you can) or develope to weapon smithing 8 or beyond.

So yeah, it's not really a bug, more like a planning oversight. It's quite annoying, but atleast you'll know how to deal with it :)
As I kinda mentioned, the Weapon Smith III bench CAN'T PROCESS IRON, therefore old recipes that use iron are not usable on that bench. You need to either get a lower level bench (don't think it's possible) or increase your weapon smithing tech level to 8 or so. Recipes from those use steel, which is craftable on the mark 3 bench.

Someguy
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Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:31 am

Aaaand... Derp. Ok. *comprehension*

The benches have been changed, and the old stuff is no longer craftable on higher tier benches. Now Bench III needs to be assigned Weapon tech 8 (tested and confrmed) as a prereq. That is the bug.

That, and now all of the older benches (among others) should probably be made buildable at any tier.

Thank you Esajas.

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