Faction leaders won't give me new dialogue

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Angelmoto257
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:29 pm

In my game no matter which faction I ally with their leader won't move on with the dialogue and will repeat the same dialogue over and over.
Here is a example I kill Molly and Esata and give their body to the Holy Nation, Phoenix keeps repeating saying I killed Esata and now I have to go after Molly, I talk to him again and he says the opposite that Molly is gone and have to go after Esata.
I started a new game this time I allied with Flotsam Ninjas I brought all the Holy Nation leaders and Molly still say I have to bring the Phoenix.
I can kill faction leaders and change the world but whatever faction I am allied won't acknowledge my deeds.

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Shidan
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:39 pm

Moll's shouldn't be capable of getting stuck in a loop like that, because her lines are once only each. Though you could plausibly get a line that doesn't make sense at times. For instance the line that ends with "When you're ready to attack the Phoenix, talk to my ninjas, /YOURNAME/." doesn't actually check if the Phoenix is okay or not, so it could trigger regardless of whether you took down the phoenix. But it wouldn't repeat it again afterward.

The Phoenix one sounds like characters were being let go. Personally, I suggest never turning in the special NPCs, alive anyway. They often get released or escape, screwing up world states. Killing people is the best method, as they can't come back from that.

Angelmoto257
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:32 pm

So what should I do import?

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Shidan
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Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 pm

Importing would respawn anyone who is considered okay. So you could catch them again, and perhaps drop them in an acid pool or something to finish the job.

That's what I'd do in your scenario.

Angelmoto257
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Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:15 am

Both Esata and Molly are dead dead and Phoenix still won't give new dialogue :(

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Shidan
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Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:50 am

Oh, right. The Phoenix dialog has an issue in a very specific set of world states where he can't select his other dialogs.

He has two that he could be picking from, but their conditions are preventing them. You need to take out Mukai the Mountain of Flying Bull to progress.

The dialogs are these:

"The Golem is destroyed only for another barbarian to take her place. The horned devils are fickle and easily won over with new leaders. I should have fores- I mean - I foresaw this in the Holy Flame, it is most unfortunate... The Mountain must be killed."

"The Golem is destroyed only for another barbarian to take her place! Predictably for men of such bloodlust, the horned hierarchy is a chaotic mess. This war is not over yet. Flying Bull must be killed."

Basically, if both Flying Bull and Mukai the Mountain are okay, it can't pick either one of those lines. If you take out one, it should start working again.

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Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:53 pm

Thank you
I killed Mukai the Mountain and now he say to get Flying Bull finally some progress

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